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Title: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 21, 2015, 20:57
got new hardware, had to reinstall windows, reinstalled SA, running under XP SP2 compatibilty with original DVD disk and it wont run at all.

this is the error message I get when I have to close it... I also get a message saying windows themes have been set to windows basic temporarily.  any help? and yes I have tried the no crack exe but cant remember if I need a vorbis thing.

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
  Application Name: gta_sa.exe
  Application Version: 0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp: 427101ca
  Fault Module Name: gta_sa.exe
  Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp: 427101ca
  Exception Code: c0000005
  Exception Offset: 00346929
  OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID: 1033
  Additional Information 1: 8e16
  Additional Information 2: 8e16f0ee8c9ae43b08e9eb2257930987
  Additional Information 3: 0179
  Additional Information 4: 0179768d96288c9319da2de2ff8b42c3


edit
SAMP wont open either....
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Dobby on March 22, 2015, 22:20
Did you try it without compatibility mode? You didn't mention your OS either.

Try re-installing it as admin (right click disc via my computer > explore > right click setup.exe > run as admin), or have you already tried that?
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 01:06
compatibility mode with windows XP SP2, 3, windows 95, 98, 2000, vista SP 1 2, windows server.. every psooibility has been done, deleted the gta.set if one is made, ran as admin, install as admin I even made a administrator user account since I read on GTA forums thats helped someone..

my original windows 7 home premium (build 7600)... reinstalled windows 7 premium cam with SP1, (build 7601).  Ill take a video of it with my phone tomorrow... I have tried 3 different exes, (no cd, hoodlum, "compact"), no change.. Calvin suggested installing video card beta drivers and that worked for about 2 minutes, and now i am back to it now working
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Benny on March 23, 2015, 14:55
What does it do when you start it? what is the error message saying? and does samp work?
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Wizzer on March 23, 2015, 17:30
Quote from: Benny on March 23, 2015, 14:55
What does it do when you start it? what is the error message saying? and does samp work?
It doesn't say anything, just a black screen is blinking then closes.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 17:33
just now tried a torrent (thnx for the try carl) but not even that works
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: nyolc8 on March 23, 2015, 17:52
I'm sure it's graphics related (not driver, but some compatibility thing).

Try this: http://www.mediafire.com/download/i8oovf8saobbabt/0.248_W8_Crashfix.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/i8oovf8saobbabt/0.248_W8_Crashfix.zip)
This made for enb 0.248 crash fixing, but the job it's doing may help you too. (it cleans every gtasa "setting" from registry which can cause graphics related error or crash)
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 18:20
im going to restart, search and delete all instances of san andreas except for my mods I was using, restarting, going to try that thing you gave me nyolc, restart and then reinstall gta original version from dvd, restart, reply here..
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Hobo on March 23, 2015, 19:01
What does work on your computer? Do any other games work?
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 19:25
ETS2 works.. 18 WOS ALH works.. I need to install grid and grid 2, they probably work really good. Raceroom experience will probably work better.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 23:26
General question: Anyone have steam version of san andreas and can play samp??
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Benny on March 24, 2015, 10:07
Quote from: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 23:26
General question: Anyone have steam version of san andreas and can play samp??
Me
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 24, 2015, 13:59
Quote from: Benny on March 24, 2015, 10:07
Quote from: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 23:26
General question: Anyone have steam version of san andreas and can play samp??
Me
Benny, how do you do the work around if SAMP says it not supported? the version 1 crack? how do you use the mods?
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: nyolc8 on March 24, 2015, 14:22
I already linked the workaround for you in shoutbox when you asked there, but here it is again: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1336083 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1336083)
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 24, 2015, 14:24
im asking benny if he does it that way
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Emily on March 24, 2015, 14:58
This is a dumb question but are all drivers up to date?
if so try switching the theme in personalize to classic or windows basic and try launching again.
windows 7 tries to do this automatically but sometimes it causes problems
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Mr.Me on March 24, 2015, 15:15
Quote from: Ethan on March 24, 2015, 13:59
Quote from: Benny on March 24, 2015, 10:07
Quote from: Ethan on March 23, 2015, 23:26
General question: Anyone have steam version of san andreas and can play samp??
Me
Benny, how do you do the work around if SAMP says it not supported? the version 1 crack? how do you use the mods?

i do too i did downgrade gta sa steam version to 1.0 and installed samp changed gta_sa to gta_sa x when you downgrade you get GTA_SA and samp change to gta_sa and when you open it via steam gta sa it will open samp and it will say you are in gta_sa on steam i get crash because i dont have all files from gta_sa downgrade is 20mb or more but all files are 1,5gb if i am not wrong
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 24, 2015, 15:32
Quote from: Emily on March 24, 2015, 14:58
This is a dumb question but are all drivers up to date?
if so try switching the theme in personalize to classic or windows basic and try launching again.
windows 7 tries to do this automatically but sometimes it causes problems
I have turned off every available option imaginable and every combination possible (that I could think of and by looking on websites) then trying to load it, nothing changed. and yes, all possible graphic, network, USB, PCI, etc..etc.. drivers are up to date..  I even download windows xp mode and virtual pc.

I honestly think it has to do with something in SP1, which (I swear) I dont think I had before reinstallation
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Benny on March 24, 2015, 15:45
Ethan i did this here what nyolc8 posted.

Quote from: nyolc8 on March 24, 2015, 14:22
I already linked the workaround for you in shoutbox when you asked there, but here it is again: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1336083 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1336083)
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 24, 2015, 15:49
ok.. I will try that tomorrow considering I bought GTA complete pack on steam
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 25, 2015, 15:23
installing now.. lets hope this works

edit: just to be sure, I am going to (try and) play single player

edit2: wont even open the steam version.

:dislike: :dislike:
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Mr.Me on March 26, 2015, 13:20
Quote from: Ethan on March 25, 2015, 15:23
installing now.. lets hope this works

edit: just to be sure, I am going to (try and) play single player

edit2: wont even open the steam version.

:dislike: :dislike:

then it is not gta fault maybe windows?
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 26, 2015, 16:51
Quote from: Mr.Me on March 26, 2015, 13:20
then it is not gta fault maybe windows?

I swear its a SP1 issue

@Carl
CarlJohnson [25 Mar 21:30]:   You neither formatted your windows nor you changed them so you only did 75% of what we told you......
Ive said how many times that I dont have a second windows 7 license, what part of that don you understand??

@hobo
Hobo [25 Mar 20:34]:   Have you downloaded a 100% vanilla copy?
yes, I installed steam version, made no changes to it whatsoever
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Hobo on March 26, 2015, 17:01
Check pm.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: CarlJohnson on March 26, 2015, 17:02
Quote from: Ethan on March 26, 2015, 16:51
Quote from: Mr.Me on March 26, 2015, 13:20
then it is not gta fault maybe windows?

I swear its a SP1 issue

@Carl
CarlJohnson [25 Mar 21:30]:   You neither formatted your windows nor you changed them so you only did 75% of what we told you......
Ive said how many times that I dont have a second windows 7 license, what part of that don you understand??

@hobo
Hobo [25 Mar 20:34]:   Have you downloaded a 100% vanilla copy?
yes, I installed steam version, made no changes to it whatsoever
What part of reinstalling and formatting you didn't understand?
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 26, 2015, 19:21
Carl, pay attention to the following sentence: I do not have another windows 7 license to install it a second time, so stop telling to reinstall and format!!

@hobo, I saw..

Sent from my nexus
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Wizzer on March 26, 2015, 19:42
Quote from: Ethan on March 26, 2015, 19:21
I do not have another windows 7 license to install it a second time, so stop telling to reinstall and format!!
You could simply download win7 with crack and burn to disc and reinstall ur windows..
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 26, 2015, 20:34
I'll talk to Hax again.. I'm going to buy a hard drive first. Not reformatting the one I have.. cheap hdd, or cheap ssd? Hmm.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: nyolc8 on March 26, 2015, 21:31
You want to buy a harddrive just because gtasa not running? It's obviously not a hardware problem since everything else works for you. Did you try to install another graphics card driver? Also, did you install any driver for the display/monitor itself? Or it just runs with stock windows display driver?
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 26, 2015, 21:59
I want to buy a new drive to install windows on because I dont think I have enough room on my external drive to save everything I have currently on my hard drive. I can then install windows on that drive, maybe 40GB- 80GB drive for less then $50.. perhaps a 32-64 GB SSD.

why would I install a different graphics driver to the one I actually have at the moment?, and yes I installed a monitor driver that came with it. I dont think it runs from the stock windows driver.

i will try hobos method later as my sister is in the hospital and we have my nieces over, no real time to 'work' on this while they are here.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: nyolc8 on March 26, 2015, 23:04
I had a similar issue (almost same symptoms as you) when I replaced my monitor with another one, then I fixed the issue (it's in the linked topic) then it happened again when I replaced monitor back and needed to fix it again: http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php?topic=42457.0 (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php?topic=42457.0)

So this is why I asked the monitor driver. Somehow that messed up the game for me when it's driver changed by the monitor replacing. I would say try to mess with your monitor driver, try to use stock windows driver.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 27, 2015, 01:02
rolled back to windows generic monitor, deleted any software related to it, restarted..
I am able to finally play single player, but when I try SAMP, I get a weird load screen, goes into single player and crashes. Also when I load CT, it shows up as retrieving info.

It fucking worked!!!! something with my monitor and/or software related... I can open up SP but I have no mouse control (dont know why) but I can play SAMP again....
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: SpazzBucket. on March 27, 2015, 06:13
Found this about mouse not working, I think I remember I had that problem before when I first started samp, but dont remember how I fixed it xD

http://preferredbypete.com/pc-games/38258-gta-san-andreas-mouse-problem-not-working-windows-7-64bit-vista.html
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: CarlJohnson on March 27, 2015, 06:16
Quote from: SpazzBucket. on March 27, 2015, 06:13
Found this about mouse not working, I think I remember I had that problem before when I first started samp, but dont remember how I fixed it xD

http://preferredbypete.com/pc-games/38258-gta-san-andreas-mouse-problem-not-working-windows-7-64bit-vista.html
He fixed it :D
He can play now.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Mr.Me on March 27, 2015, 13:12
Quote from: Ethan on March 27, 2015, 01:02
but I can play SAMP again....

yeey  :like:
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 27, 2015, 13:30
I fixed SP mouse issue.. I dont know how nor what I did, and I connected last night so I am back... the only "mod" I want (to use) is the draw distance and I have that however to see the big blue sky, I believe its in particle or loadscs file.. I have everything else installed.
Title: Re: GTA wont open
Post by: Ethan on March 29, 2015, 23:52
When Windows initially wouldn't start, we chose to do a backup of files, I do think my complete game I had is on there. going to check, but like I said, I'm back, GTA works, halljuhla!!

Topic closed.